Episode 80: Dr. Kyle Hampton of Arktos Direct Care - Ft. Collins, CO

Direct Primary Care Doctor


Dr. Hampton
Dr. Kyle Hampton of Arktos Direct Care

Kyle N Hampton, DO is a board certified physician in Family Medicine and Osteopathic Manipulative Therapy.


He was born and raised in Oregon and attended Oregon State University, where he obtained a Bachelor of Science in Biology and a minor in Philosophy with a focus on Ethics. After graduating from OSU, he spent two years working at a nursing home and fighting wildland forest fires in the summer. Dr. Hampton attended medical school at Midwestern University – Arizona College of Osteopathic Medicine. He then completed his internship and residency training in Family Medicine at Pacific Hospital of Long Beach in California.


Dr. Hampton has always enjoyed the outdoors and sports, which has helped to promote his professional medical interest of musculoskeletal health. He practices an integration of OMT with family medicine to help promote healthy body functioning. He believes in the osteopathic principles that the musculoskeletal system plays a key role in maintaining health and that the body has the natural ability to self-regulate and self-heal. These tenets also led him to add prolotherapy into his medical practice to help promote that natural healing process. He has been formally trained in various techniques of prolotherapy and offers a wide range of treatment options. A major goal of Dr. Hampton’s care is to keep you out there doing the things you enjoy.


Dr. Hampton is a member of the American Osteopathic Association, the American College of Osteopathic Family Physicians, the American Osteopathic Association of Prolotherapy and Regenerative Medicine, the Colorado Medical Society, and the Northern Colorado Medical Society.

He opened Arktos Direct Care in 2018.


 

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Welcome to the podcast Dr. Hampton, glad to be here. It's so exciting to talk with you because you are officially the second person, the second clinic from Colorado. And I definitely know there's more out there, so thank you for joining in on the. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Colorado is kind of a nice little hub for DPC.


That's just how everybody does it here. They kind of go out on their own. So love it. Now you are located in Fort Collins, Colorado. So can you please start us off by just sharing, you know, as you made the comment about everyone going out on their own, what is your community like in terms of who lives there and in terms of, you know, what kinds of employers do you see in your area?


Yeah, no, that's a great question. Fort Collins is really an interesting place. There's a lot of, you know, it's located at the Northern end of Colorado on the front range of the Rocky mountains. So right where the great Plains meets the mountain right in share or the continental divide. It's definitely an eclectic mix of people because you have everything from working farmers and rent.


To high-tech firms, university professors, outdoor enthusiasts. And then of course it's like craft beer capital of the world. So you have all the beer aficionados too. It's home to Colorado state university, which has an amazing agricultural research and vet program. And students literally come from around the world to finish their post-grad programs here in Fort Collins.


So it gets a very mixed group of people coming. And we have tons of like the tech research firms and HP, Intel Broadcom, all those guys are here, tons of robotic firms and then tons of stuff with like the aerospace , industry as like a lot of that stuff is based in Colorado Springs, uh, with the military base there.


So, it's definitely a wide group of people. Both spectrums of like the political scale too. As many of, you know, it's formula like many craft breweries, including new Belgium many others around here, like you cannot throw stones and stuff. It's also, you know, on the foothills of the Rocky. So it's a home base for many outdoor athletes and always a big outdoor recreation scene here.


So kind of the whole town, like you can't walk around town without seeing like Cotopaxi and north face and mountain hardware stuff is just everywhere. So that's just how it goes. It's sort of a small city though, too. It only, it's a population of 170,000. So it has that small city appeal, but also all the amenities you could help for.


And then we're only an hour away from Denver. So, everything is really here in Colorado and there's a large mix of employer groups and small business owners and people who work for big industry and everything. So we see a little bit of everything. I didn't realize how diverse it was because I remember when my husband and I were looking at Fort Collins for residency.


I don't, I don't think that we remembered it being so diverse. So that's wonderful to hear, especially for people who are, you know, considering maybe opening a DPC in Colorado, it's something to check out. And so there, I want to ask, in terms of your background, you grew up in Oregon, you went to training in Arizona then to long beach.


And so I want to ask, how did you end up in Fort Collins, Colorado? Yeah, it's definitely a roundabout story. So I met my wife, uh, Dr. Eddie, Avara the other physician here during residency in long beach. And then she grew up in both Florida and California. We originally kind of thought that maybe we would stay in California after residency and then looked at what it costs and we're like, we can't do that.


And so we moved out to Jacksonville, Florida and started practicing family medicine there. That's where she grew up and her sister has a dental practice there. So her family was there. And so we moved out there. We worked at a large physician owned, uh, clinic or group of clinics and primary care in Jacksonville.


And then after about three years, Started getting the feeling like this. Isn't where we really fit in Florida. And when I grew up on the west coast, humidity was a foreign substance to me. I didn't know what the hell it was. And then the whole mosquitoes and bugs and everything that Florida has to offer with this bombs and everything.


My wife was just like, we're done. I got to move somewhere. So we kind of looked all over and like, where, where do we want wanna we have family on both coasts. And so we started looking at the middle of the country sorta to make travel easier. Like it is a direct flight, no matter where we go, if we're in the metal.


So, we sort of started looking there and then our daughter was born. And so she was just about ready to turn one when we were getting ready to move. And we sort of narrowed our search down in Colorado because the recruiter reached out to us and said, look, I have these practices that are looking for primary care doctors, if you guys want to come out.


So we came out and we interviewed all over Denver and that sort of Metro area. And liked a few of the practices. And then there was a couple that really probably wouldn't fit in there. And there was one left up in Fort Collins and interview that we had to go to. And so we came up here and fell in love with the town and we're like, man, if only they had two positions.


And so we were actually, we still talk about it. Cause we were sitting at, uh, Elon Musk's brother's restaurant, which is downtown Fort Collins. So we were sitting there talking about it and our waiter was telling us how good. The early childhood development daycare at the university was, and so we were like, all right, we're solos.


We got it. This is what we got to, like, our daughter has to go to the best type thing, you know? And so we finally convinced them to do two positions. Uh, and so it worked out. And so we moved here and long story short, she never got into the early childhood development place anyway. So apparently that's incredibly hard to get into.


Um, But everything worked out for now. Amazing. And I want to ask there in terms of you guys, you know, carved a path for yourselves to enter Fort Collins and to establish, you know, as, as doctors there, how did you end up, deciding that you were going to leave that position and open your own direct primary.


Yeah, I mean, that's tough. You know, we were working for a, uh, an FQHC, so federally qualified health clinic both of us in the same, same company with different clinics here in town. And honestly there was just a tons of frustration both on our end patients and my wife all the time. So, I'm the type of doctor who like likes to spend time with my patients and doesn't want to rush the visit or anything like that.


And with me doing adjustments and everything, we can't just fit things into a 10 minute or 15 minutes slot. And so I was always running an hour or two behind their patients were mad. They couldn't get to see me. And I was working like every day, going home and like helping put the kids to bed, make dinner, and then spend three hours doing notes or finishing up my work.


And I just didn't have time for our kids, for our family, or even like my own health. And then seeing 25 to 30 patients a day and just being behind and everything, it just got to the point that it was overwhelming. And like my wife, she was kind of going through the same thing and we were both always just frustrated and sort of always bickering at each other, just things weren't happy.


And you could just kind of tell, like, the patients were upset, we were upset and like nothing was working. And then, you know, more and more metrics would get dumped down here. So we sort of were like, well, what are we going to do? Like, do we look for different positions? Do we move? Like, what is it. We had both heard about like direct primary care concierge practices, whatever in residency and never really looked into it.


And I remember in Florida I had looked into MD VIP a little bit and I was like, I just, I don't know my own practice. I don't have the ability to buy into an MD VIP type thing. And then somewhere along the line, like I just started mentioning again, like, do you remember direct primary care? Like somewhere came up that there was an article about direct primary care or something.


And so we looked into it like, well, we could do this. Like this would really work. Like this just would fit how we want to practice. And so it just sort of happened that we started really looking at it and spent at least a year, I mean, well, over a year kind of setting things up, I'm like, can we really do this?


And yeah, we, we set up, so we could, I was going through some of my own health issues and add like a big surgery that I was looking at. And so I sort of used that as I'm like. I am taking this time off for my own health. I have to do the surgery anyway. Like I'm going to be out for two months. So, and so I helped, I set up a lot of that stuff.


And then when I went back to the clinic I told them I'm only willing to work part time. And he told him like, listen, I'm going to open this practice. I'm going to start part time. And so I did that in November. I sort of still was in our contracts with primary care. So when we first opened it, I was just doing the adjustments and regenerative medicine stuff.


Uh, and then we set a date on my 40th birthday, which was February of 2019. And I said, I'm quitting. I'm done that. So that's, that's when we could offer memberships. It was the beginning of 2019. That's amazing. And I just love that, you guys moved to this place to enjoy Fort Collins partially, and now you're able to, , take ownership of your lives because you guys are working in your own direct primary care now.


So you were working in FQHC while they were also aware that you were opening up your practice and doing regenerative, medicine, and osteopathy.


So I want to ask, is there any issue with non-competes? Are they not enforceable? Like they are in California, what's it like in college? Yeah, well, that's kind of interesting. We've never signed a non-compete, which is kind of like, we're the odd couple in medicine. Really? When we went to Florida, the, the owner of the whole clinics basically said like, Hey, if you think you can do it better across the street, fine, like I'm not going to make you guys sign a noncompete.


I mean, they paid well and they paid their staff well, and they were like, listen, if you think you're going to be with us, fine, try to compete with that. So he never made a sign. And then when we came to Colorado, it just wasn't even ask. So I don't, at the time it was. And working at the FQHC. A lot of it was like, people are gonna get loaner payment and all that sort of stuff.


So they didn't re there were other reasons to make you stay instead of an apathy. And then it has since come out that they really are not enforceable in Colorado. So you don't really see them much anymore. We never had to deal with them. And I kind of feel lucky about that. A lot of it too, like I would bring up my frustrations to administration and be like, listen, I'm trained in doing regenerative medicine.


And a lot of our patients were Medicaid, so it wasn't really painful, but I'm like, I'm willing to do this for free because this is better than trying to send them to the orthopedist or whatever that they can't see for six months. And they're Medicaid patients. So they'll push their surgery off for another year anyway.


And they still wouldn't let me, so they knew I was really frustrated and. Limit me in what I could do. And so when I told him like, I'm going to do this on the side, I, they weren't really in a position to fight me on it in a way other than they said, I couldn't, you know, part of my contract because I could not do primary care yet.


That's fair enough. We can do that. So I think they saw the right now and they kind of knew like, we kind of leave at some point and then my wife stayed because she was under the, uh, the loan repayment program. So, yeah, she, you know, she stayed for two years. Gotcha. And that's one question I had for you in terms of, you know, that, that planning to open up direct primary care.


Eventually offer primary care services. In addition to the services you already had established and then how your wife joins. So, thank you for sharing that. And it's just, it's incredible that, you know, you, like you said, you're a well-trained physician and able to offer all of these, these services. So, it's great that you or your patients now can benefit from your full scope of practice.


So when you, when you gave your notice and you were like, I'm turning 40, this is what's going to happen, period.


And you're opening Arctic district care, expanding its services. What were some of the things that you had done early on? Like you said, during your surgery, you had, you had the time to plan for your practice. What were some of the key things that you had going on that enabled you to be successful? At the.


Yeah, well, I mean, that was difficult. And honestly, like if my wife was not a full-time physician, it would have been really hard because at, uh, at the clinic here in town, it was mainly Medicaid. And in Colorado, there was a law that Medicaid patients can not pay for personal physician services. So, I mean, basically it's anti DPC for Medicaid patients only here.


And so, we knew when I was leaving, like none of my patients could follow me. So we were really starting from ground zero there. So if she was not a full-time physician, it would have been financially almost impossible to do. And then going into it too, I knew like we were going to have to mark.


Fairly heavily one for education for patients just because it's not a common thing here. There's a lot of, we get the question, like, what is, what is membership medicine? What is very primary care? So, you know, we built a website and started doing a little bit of social media stuff. And then put some ads on the radio and things like that before we even opened.


So we had a little bit of interest. And then when I came over and started doing the Riviera medicine stuff too, like obviously I had like brochures and all the information I could to give to people that, you know, kind of asked about primary care services, where they didn't have a doctor when I was seeing them for other things.


So that helped a lot. And then I feel like too, like. Being an era affiliate and get in touch with Clint Flanagan and NextEra. It helped to sort of get our foot in the door, into the model and really started seeing patients which helped a ton. And then we just got lucky with like within the first month a local daycare that has about 40 employees contacted me and said, what is this you guys are doing?


Because we can't afford to pay for insurance for all of our employees. Especially a lot of them were college students that would be with them for six months and then leave and then come back type of thing. So, so they signed up all their employees right away too, which really kind of helped get it started at the beginning.


So yeah, we went from, from zero patients on my birthday when we opened to about 60 patients within the first couple of months. So it really helped at the same time there was a lot of days, right. I sat here and did nothing, you know, like not a patient walked through the door and the phone never rang.