Episode 84: Dr. Kyle Adams (He/Him) of Auburn Direct Primary Care - Auburn, AL

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Dr. Adams in a white coat
Dr. Kyle Adams of Auburn DPC

Dr. Kyle Adams is a Board Certified Family Medicine Physician. Originally from Leesburg, GA, he graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree from Georgia Southern University. He attended medical school and received his MD from Mercer University School of Medicine in Macon, GA. After medical school, Dr. Adams completed a year-long internship in OBGYN at Mercer University / Navicent Health in Macon and then went on to complete Family Medicine residency at Wake Forest Baptist Health in Winston Salem, NC.


He married his high school sweetheart, Laine, in 2011, and they now live in Auburn with their three kids. Dr. Adams enjoys powerlifting and anything outdoors, but he often gets made fun of for his lack of football knowledge. In his professional career, Dr. Adams enjoys getting to know his patients and spending time helping them learn to lead a healthy and active lifestyle. He also enjoys procedures and offers them for free to ADPC patients.


He opened Auburn DPC in March of 2021.


 

RESOURCES MENTIONED BY DR. ADAMS:

-Mr. Money Mustache

-Physicians on FIRE

-UCSF Guidelines for the Primary and Gender-Affirming Care of Transgender and Gender Nonbinary People HERE

-Endocrine Society Guidelines on Transgender Health HERE

-FB: Doctors Groups focusing on transgender and gender-diverse care

-FB: DPC Docs Group

-Startup DPC by Dr. Paul Thomas

 

CONTACT:

Website: auburndpc.com

email: dr.adams@auburndpc.com

phone: 3342092339


SOCIALS:

Facebook Page HERE

 

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TRANSCRIPT*


Direct primary care is an innovative alternative path to insurance driven health. Typically a patient pays their doctor, a low monthly membership and in return builds a lasting relationship with their doctor and has their doctor available at their fingertips. Welcome to the, my DPC story podcast, where each week you will hear the ever so relatable stories shared by physicians who have chosen to practice medicine in their individual communities through the direct primary care model.


I'm your host, Mary L conception, family, physician, DPC owner, and former fee for service doctor. I hope you enjoy today's episode and come away feeling inspired about the future of patient care, direct primary care.


Great memory care to me is freedom and salvation for physicians. And it is the solution to a crappy broken system for patients. It allows me to take care of patients the way they deserve to be taken care of unencumbered by the tyranny and oppression of corporate medicine and the insurance companies.


And it allows my patients to have access to a physician who really has their best interests in mind. I'm Dr. Kyle Adams of Auburn DPC. And this is my DPC story. Uh,


Dr. Kyle Adams is a board certified family medicine physician. Originally from Leesburg, Georgia. He graduated with a bachelor of science degree from Georgia Southern university. He attended medical school and received his MD from Mercer university school of medicine in Macon, Georgia after medical school, Dr.


Adams completed a year long internship in OB GYN at Mercer university Navicent health in Macon, Georgia, and then went on to complete family medicine residency at wake forest Baptist health in Winston-Salem North Carolina. He married his high school. Lane in 2011 and they now live in Auburn with their three kids, Dr.


Adams enjoys powerlifting and anything outdoors, but he often gets made fun of, for his lack of football knowledge in his professional career, Dr. Adams enjoys getting to know his patients and spending time helping them learn to lead a healthy and active lifestyle. He also enjoys procedures and offers them for free to Auburn DPC patients.


He opened Auburn direct primary care in March of 2021.


I wanted to start by reading a quote that you had written in a blog post. Uh, right as you're opening Auburn DPC. And so the quote is doctors in the mainstream fee for service world are not truly working for their patients. They're working for the insurance companies who will do anything in their power to refuse coverage, or at least pay less than what a service.


Because of the huge financial and time constraints placed on these doctors, they are forced to see 20 to 30 patients per day, spend hours on documentation and carry patient panels of 2000 to 3000 patients. Each don't get me wrong. These are not bad. Doctors are good doctors trapped in a bad system. So I decided to step outside of that broken system and do something different in my practice.


I can accept whoever I want. Even the tough and time consuming cases. I can take text messages from patients since I don't have to force them to come into the office to get paid. I can spend time on educating my patients, listening to their concerns and treating them as a whole person. And I can do it all without putting my patients into debt over their healthcare.


So with that, welcome to the podcast Dr. Adams. When I saw that quote, uh, or those lines of, of your, you know, your story on your website, on your blog. I love that you've pinned it to your Facebook page. So it's, you know, prominently there for anybody to see, because you know, some, some of the posts on your, on the responses to your blog post are people who are like, this is a scam.


This is not real. And so, you know, I, I love that you are, you are embodying in your website and in your community. Now what it truly means to be a direct primary care doctor. So, uh, as you mentioned, I pin that to the top of my Facebook page, because I think that particular article kind of encapsulates everything that I'm trying to do here.


And, uh, I want anybody who's interested in, um, our practice in, in me as a physician to, uh, be able to. To see, to have access to that information and really understand what we're trying to get done and prove that it's not a scam. It's not a scam, it's the real deal. And I still get patients there almost every day in here, um, that we see for the first time who leave and are on their way out the door and say, I can't believe that this is actually a thing.


You know, that, uh, that y'all were actually doing what you're doing here. Um, and people just love it. Absolutely. And definitely that, that's something that I know for me, it fills my cup every single time I hear that. I heard that on, uh, from a patient yesterday when I did a home visit, she's like, I slept better.


That's because you listened. And I was like, that's amazing. I'm glad you slept better. So let me ask you when, when your, your focus is quality over quantity, I want to ask about what was it that led you to even choosing this path in your career of medicine? Um, well, you know, I think if you, if you, if anybody has read that particular article and they've got a decent idea of what it was that that led me to this, but, um, I had been, uh, employed as chief medical officer of, uh, a growing urgent care chain here in Alabama.


And I was overseeing, um, nine and then towards the end of it, 10 clinics, um, and led that company medically, uh, through the entirety of 2020, which was, as you can imagine, a ton of fun. And, um, toward the end of that, I kind of looked around and realized that I had become a. COVID testing technician. And, uh, that is not what I wanted to do with my medical license.


Um, so I decided to become a real doctor again. And, uh, toward November of 2020, I was on an urgent care shift and I established my LLC on my cell phone between patients. Um, yeah. Um, and then, uh, put in my notice, um, the next month and the following March 1st, we opened and, uh, you know, it's, it's been the best decision.


Professionally, um, that, that I think I've ever made. Incredible. And I love that. I hope that, you know, other people got a kick out of that as well, just because, you know, this is, this is something that is real, it's something achievable and inner, just developing your LLC and, you know, establishing it between patients is, is one way to prove that.


So that's amazing. No, one of the, one of the big questions, um, that people have when they're thinking about this model, and I just had a conversation with a local doctor about this is, is the fear of jumping in because of the finances being so different. So I want to ask when you were going, you know, in your mind from, you know, being a CMO, doing, being a COVID technician, so to speak, as you just said, um, to becoming a real doctor again, um, what were some of those fears and how did you overcome them financially when you transitioned to.


Um, yeah, I mean like anybody else, of course I was worried about it. I mean, I finished residency in 2017, so it's not like I had a huge stock pile of money sitting around. Um, and I've, I've got a family of five to take care of. Um, and so I definitely, that was one of my major concerns was how am I gonna, how am I going to make money?


How am I going to keep my family fed and pay off these student loans? Um, so I've always kinda been the kind of person who, you know, once I get an idea in my head, it's probably going to have. One way or the other. And so, uh, you know, uh, through my experience at urgent care, I was pretty familiar with how locum tenens work goes.


And so I thought, you know, I'm a family medicine MD. If I need money, I can find a shift tomorrow somewhere. So there was really nothing, um, concrete holding me back from doing it. Um, because I knew that if, if it came down to it, I could make money. You know, if you've got an MD or a Dio, you can make money.


Um, and so I decided to do it, um, and, uh, just jumped in and, um, I kept my side gig, you know, which the urgent care became the sad gig, uh, for quite a while, , Until the DPC practice was really, um, making a little bit of money for us. And, um, I still actually serve kind of in an advisory capacity for that company, but I'm no longer working urgent care shifts.


And, um, I go home at five o'clock every day.


Spoken like a true doctor entrepreneurs. So I absolutely love that. And one of the things that I learned about you just through research before our talk today is that you also have successfully paid off your student loans.


So please share about, how you, , are a doctor on, on fire for that, for the people, you know, familiar with that terminology. Yeah. Um, now my wife told me not to talk too much during this interview. You may not want me on that topic, but, um, uh, yeah, I started getting interested in personal finance and, uh, the concept of fire financial independence.


Um, at some point in medical school, uh, after I had already racked up a ton of debt, of course, um, And I kind of carried that mentality with me through residency and into my early medical career. And so when I finished residency, uh, I had around $360,000 in debt. Um, and that was in, uh, November of 2017. Um, and so my number one goal coming out financially was, uh, to get that squashed.


So we, thankfully my wonderful wife was completely on board with that. Um, so we did not go and buy a doctor's mansion. We did not buy BMWs. Um, I'm still driving a, uh, Ford focus, um, which is fine. So, um, every, you know, basically every, uh, spare penny, I had went to paying off their student loans. And, um, so, you know, we finally got it done and it's a huge.


Huge huge relief. And with your kids being so little and with you guys being so young, this is just it's. Congratulations. It is, it is a, it is not an easy achievement, but you have, you've worked your tail off to do that. So congratulations. It's amazing. Thank you. Um, yeah, there's a, there's a lot to be said for financial freedom.


Um, and of course I'm not completely there yet because I do still have to work for money. Um, but I don't have to work as much as I am working. Yeah. And you're not, you're not, you know, digging yourself out of that hole as, uh, like you were before. So, um, definitely words, words to take the heart. And for those people who aren't familiar with the fire movement, just Google it and you can find out a ton more, um, just, just stopping there.


Do you have any resources that you, really latched on to when you were learning about the. Oh, absolutely. Um, so Mr. Money mustache is, uh, kind of my man crush and, um, If, uh, if I can encourage anybody to read any blog article, uh, my favorite blog article of all time is the shockingly simple math behind early retirement on the Mr.


Money mustache blog. And that one really opened my eyes to the power of frugality and saving and what you could really do and what, what kind of freedom you could buy with that. Um, so Mr. Money mustache is a big one. Um, physician on fire is a great one. That's targeted specifically to doctors and other, uh, traditionally high-income individuals.


And then the white coat investor is, is awesome. That's Dr. Jim Dolly, I believe, uh, an emergency physician and he comes at things from a little bit different angle. He's not, um, totally on the fire train. Um, but his, his financial advice is super sound and it was one of the first financial books I ever read.


Wow. Um, definitely great resources. And thank you for mentioning those. Now, as we talk about finances, you have a physical space for your clinic. So can you tell the audience about how you worked finding a space into your budget and how did you actually transition from being in your former work to being at Auburn DPC?


Sure. Um, so real estate was actually fairly hard to come by. Um, that was the most challenging honestly, piece of putting this business together was finding a place to do it. Um, and I, I kind of knew right off the bat that I did not want to go the straight up micro-practice route. Um, I didn't want to do everything myself because I hate paperwork and I hate answering phones.


Um, so it's awesome to have somebody doing that for me. But, uh, uh, contacted a commercial real estate agent here in Auburn. And, um, he was able to, to show me around this place and it just happened to be perfect. I mean, it just came together and this place was available, uh, right when we needed it. And it's, um, I've got my, my office room right here.


Right, right. Next door is my one exam room. And then I've got a nice big lobby and I've got a little kitchenette and, uh, uh, there's a storage room that had all this built-in shelving and these cabinets, which is perfect for a supply room and pharmacy. So it just, I mean, it was kinda serendipitous there.


Um, so we jumped on this one. Awesome. And in terms of, um, transitioning, did you take some time off between jobs or did you overlap the two? How did, how did you do the trends. Yeah. Um, so in early 20, 21, I was, uh, I was still working, uh, like three shifts a week and the urgent care, um, I had stepped down from the CMO role.


Um, but I was still working shifts, uh, to pay the bills and to accumulate a little startup fund for this business. Um, So, you know, working three shifts a week, I still had a pretty significant chunk of time to be over here. Um, getting things set up, you know, setting u