Episode 102: Dr. Brewer Eberly (He/Him) of Fischer Clinic - Raleigh, NC

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Dr. Eberly practices in Raleigh, NC
Dr. Brewer Eberly

Dr. Brewer Eberly is a third-generation family physician at the Fischer Clinic in Raleigh, NC and a research affiliate with the Theology, Medicine, & Culture Initiative at Duke Divinity School. He completed his family medicine residency and chief residency at AnMed Health in Anderson, South Carolina, and is a fellow of both the Theology, Medicine, & Culture Fellowship at Duke Divinity School and the Paul Ramsey Institute with the Center for Bioethics & Culture.

He has been published widely, including JAMA, Academic Medicine, AMA Journal of Ethics, Hektoen, BMJ Journal of Medical Ethics, The New Atlantis, Perspectives in Biology and Medicine, Student Doctor Network, CHEST, Society of Teachers of Family Medicine, STAT, Doximity, KevinMD, Public Discourse, Linacre Quarterly, and the Journal of Religion and Health, as well as theological spaces like Mere Orthodoxy, Christianity Today, Plough, Comment, Theopolis, (TH-EE-OHP-O-LYS) and First Things. His artwork has been featured on the cover of Academic Medicine and in the AMA Journal of Ethics.

While the majority of his time is spent caring for his patients, his research is rooted in the intersections of medicine, aesthetics, bioethics, and theology, with a particular eye toward medical trainee formation, the nourishment of weary clinicians, and the relationship between beauty and ethics. He is on the planning committee with Columbia University’s Center for Clinical Ethics “Medicine & the Art of Ethics” colloquium on human vulnerability, which brings together vocational artists, clinicians, ethicists, theologians, and philosophers to explore how art invokes moral action, and what that might mean for clinical ethics and the future of medical training and practice. He and his wife Dendy have three sons, and worship at Redeemer Anglican Church in Raleigh.



Samuel Shem, House of God: https://searchingformedicinessoul.podbean.com/e/samuel-shem/

Ben Frush, “Suffering Absence: Hauerwas and the Challenges to Faithful Presence in Contemporary Medical Training,” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7551535/pdf/10.1177_0024363920937626.pdf

Marilynne Robinson, Gilead, 2006.

St. Louis University Theology and Health Care Ethics joint PhD program: https://www.slu.edu/arts-and-sciences/academics/degrees/graduate/theology-health-care-ethics-phd.php

University of Aberdeen: https://www.abdn.ac.uk

Jonathan Lear, Radical Hope: Ethics in the Face of Cultural Devastation, 2008.

Farr Curlin, “So You Want to Be a Doctor? Medicine as Instrumental Job vs. Sacred Vocation,” https://soundcloud.com/thomisticinstitute/so-you-want-to-be-a-doctor-medicine-as-instrumental-job-vs-sacred-vocation-dr-farr-curlin

Wendell Berry, “Health is Membership” (1994), What Are People For? (2010), The Art of Loading Brush (2017).

Peter Berger, Brigitte Berger, Hansfried Kellner, The Homeless Mind: Modernization and Consciousness, 1973.


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 Welcome to the podcast, Dr. Eberly.

Thank you. It's great to be here. It's a delight.

for the audience, it's been a, a lovely time connecting with Dr. Eberly to get to this interview date because both of us have young kids, and so it is, it is so exciting to talk to another DPC doctor who understands the world of DPC while managing young kids and having the ability to craft your livelihood around your family and around your patients the way that you wanted to, and you particularly.

Have a very interesting story in that you heard about the Fishcer Clinic before you even graduated residency. So just wanted to drop that little nugget there before we get going. But thank you so much for, for being here today and taking time outta your day.

Oh yeah, no, thank you again. And my, I should say my, my wife is the real hero here.

Taking our sons.

Yeah, I echo that one. My husband's downstairs with our two, so that's awesome. Yes, . So I wanted to highlight again that idea that you have learned about DPC before you graduated residency. And I will say that, it's not the most common thing to hear it is becoming more and more common, which is awesome.

Mm-hmm. . But I wanted to even go back a little bit farther into the drive that you had to become a family medicine physician as well as a DPC family medicine physician. Yes. Could you please share what was going on between third and fourth year of medical school that really helped you in terms of what I have read from material that you've written really helped codify your journey into family medicine in particular.

Yeah. No, thanks. Thanks for that question. For having told the story so many times, I don't, I don't have a great uh, summarized version of it. But um, yeah, so between my third and fourth year of, of med school, I did a fellowship called the Theology of Medicine Culture Fellowship at Duke Divinity School.

I had met a physician named Far Lin doing a separate medical ethics seminar when I was a second year medical student, and he had just been talking about this idea of launching a cohort that would bring together. Clinicians, ethicists, public health students, seminary students, throw them all in the same classroom together for a year of kind of intense formation.

And I was like, Man, that sounds amazing. And I'll probably never be able to do it . But in the middle of my third year of medical school. I was troubled by wha